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Romeo is a Siamese mix (he's a rescue and has a tiny white dot on his chest, so he's not purebred). The rescue I obtained him from (Siamese Cat Rescue Center) said he is a chocolate point, but he also had a fever coat while he was in rescue (it is almost grown out!).

I recently showed his picture to a friend and she said he looks just like her seal point, which made me wonder what the difference is between a chocolate and seal point?

Since colorpoints tend to get darker with age, I'll note that Romeo's age is not known, but he had not reached maturity (developed secondary sex characteristics) when he was neutered (August 2014), so he's younger than three years old.

sleeping cat with either seal or chocolate colorpoints

  • I don't know that having a locket (white spot on chest) means that it is not purebred, just that he is not going to place well in shows and is likely not useful in breeding programs. The genetics of lockets and buttons isn't well specified, but there likely is one. – Oldcat Jul 1 '15 at 20:45
  • I do know that a white splotch on a paw in not a disqualifying fault for traditional ("Thai") Siamese. – keshlam Jul 1 '15 at 23:56
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There are official show-quality/purebred definitions of each of the "point" colors. You can easily find the whole list and photos of corresponding cats on the web, but to answer your question:

Seal-point: fawn body, dark chocolate colored points, paw pads and nose leather dark brown.

Chocolate-point: ivory body, milk chocolate points, paw pads and nose leather rosy brown.

The difference becomes fuzzy in random-bred 'meezers, and as you know body color shifts with age and environment since it's temperature-sensitive.

If the photo is accurate, and my screen is accurate, and the lighting isn't misleading, I'd say that's a seal-point coloration.

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There's a bit of confusion and possibly some exploitation about these names. The genetic trait that produces black fur on a cat comes in three variants: Black, Chocolate, and Cinnamon. Chocolate is notably lighter brownish color than Black. This variant of the gene is rare, and thus valued in breeder circles.

The Colorpoint gene that tweaks the dominant color to provide the distinctive dark points does so by a temperature-dependent lessening of color on the animal. Cooler areas are closer to the natural color, warmers are much lighter. Thus black is reduced to a brownish color at the points that breeders call Seal Point - possibly because it sounds better than black point.

A cat with the Chocolate gene and Colorpoint as well will have the original light color lightened even more and be very pale. This is true Chocolate point, and is also rare. Probably in most cases Chocolate Point is being used either as a synonym for Seal, which is wrong, or to boost the value of a pointed cat. I have a cat called Chocolate Point which is really Seal Point now that he is grown.

Looking at your photo, I'd say this is a Seal for sure. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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Siamese

Maybe this will help.

This is my 4 year old Siamese, Winston, whom I adopted from the street here in Bangkok when he was 5 weeks old. Today when I was getting him microchipped my vet labeled him Chocolate Point but I'm not sure she's correct.

So, based on (a) whether this is the same coloring as your cat, and (b) whether you trust my Thai veterinarian, then that should help determine your cat's coloring category.

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Your cat is a Seal. Chocolates have a cinnamon-pink nose. The Thai vet is wrong.
See: CFA Siamese Point scores

SIAMESE COLORS

SEAL POINT:

  1. Body: even pale fawn to cream, warm in tone, shading gradually into lighter color on the stomach and chest
  2. Points: deep seal brown
  3. Nose leather and paw pads: same color as points
  4. Eye color: deep vivid blue

CHOCOLATE POINT Picture of a Chocolate siamese

  1. Body: ivory with no shading
  2. Points: milk-chocolate color, warm in tone
  3. Nose leather and paw pads:cinnamon-pink
  4. Eye color: deep vivid blue

BLUE POINT

  1. Body: bluish white cold in tone, shading gradually to white on stomach and chest.
  2. Points: deep blue.
  3. Nose leather and paw pads: slate color
  4. Eye color: deep vivid blue.

LILAC POINT

  1. Body: glacial white with no shading
  2. Points: frosty grey with pinkish tone
  3. Nose leather and paw pads:lavender-pink. Eye color: deep vivid blue.

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