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So I have a big ol' St Bernard well actually I have 2, but the newest one is having a big problem he won't stop taking things off of counters and tables.

For the first one I just used negative reinforcement where when she'd grab something I would put her in time out in a room and when she looked and just walked away I'd give her a treat.

This approach does not work with him, instead he's learned to do it when nobody is looking. It doesn't matter what it is he takes pans you name it. So I try to put everything away but there has to be a way to teach him as timeouts and positive reinforcement don't seem to be working

He is 8 months old and big enough to rest his head on the table without jumping.

So any suggestions would be appreciated

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There's the possibility that he is spoiled in the sense that he doesn't need to follow rules. In some dogs this lack of rules results in them compulsively eating anything they can chew, even if the items are not edible.

Your dog knows exactly that he isn't allowed to take things from the table. He does so anyway because he learned that there will be no (immediate) consequences for him when he takes things while no-one is there. For negative reinforcement to work, you must reprimand him within 3 seconds of him misbehaving.

If you don't have rules in your house he has to follow every day, he is not used to following rules even if no-one is watching him. Since he's male, his general tendency to dominance makes him ignore rules that are not enforced strictly.

Some very good rules are:

  • The human always walks first through every door. He is not allowed to squeeze through.
  • When humans eat, he must wait at a respectful distance. That means lying at least 2 meters away from the table. The best way to enforce this rule is to place pillows, blankets or bath mats in a spot and sending your dogs to wait on them.
  • He never gets food directly from the table or while humans are still eating.
  • He is not allowed claim a high resting place like on a sofa or bed. If you want to allow him on a sofa, he can only jump up after being invited by you. If he jumps up without your invitation, send him down again immediately.

These are very simple rules that enforce your own dominance without ever punishing or hurting your dog. You must treat both dogs absolutely equally and enforce the same rules for both. When you start enforcing your own dominance this way, you should notice a change in his behavior within a few days.


Another possibility is that your dog is actually bored and takes the things just for fun. This also has the potential to develop into a compulsive eating disorder called "Pica". You could play different games with him to entertain him more:

  • Scent games: (this works like thimblerig) let your dog sit down and wait. Place 3 - 5 dessert bowls upside down on the ground. Put some treats under one bowl, but pretend to put treats under all of them. Your dog has to sniff out the bowl with the treats.
  • Search games: send your dog into one room and let him wait there. In a different room where he cannot see you, hide 1 - 3 treats in different places he can (and is allowed to) access. Call your dog and let him search for the treats.
  • Balance games: teach him to balance a treat on his nose or head and only eat it when you give the command. This is a great way for him to gain control over his impulses.
  • Object recognition: teach him what a "ball" is and what a "plushy" is. Send him to retrieve the object you name. (Please take into account that dogs cannot recognize speach as well as humans, so choose names that are clearly different from each other. "Flower" and "power" are too similar for a dog to recognize the difference.)
  • Offer him a toy like a Kong or a kibble dispensing ball.
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  • I think the second is highly likely he's been out to play a bit less lately due to the yard being pure mud still take him for his mile or two hike. I will try those suggestions thank you – SCFi Dec 7 '18 at 21:51
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    After this weekend, doubled the amount I take him for walks and gave him more yard time. He did stop taking things. will try the other options listed but this does appear to be the correct answer – SCFi Dec 10 '18 at 13:05
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Using Brandon McMillan's "Lucky Dog Show" as a source:

  • Set up a video feed with a home system, or a baby cam, or 2 cell phones (like a skype call).
  • Toss some pennies (or coins) in an empty water bottle
  • Step out of the room and observe the dog
  • When the dog snatches something off the table, start shaking the penny bottle and step inside the room saying "No" and removing the object from his grasp
  • Repeat (again and again)

You should probably expect to spend a few hours doing this. But the approach should work...

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  • +1 This seems like a good idea, but it also seems like a smart dog, I wonder if the dog will learn to only keep off the counters when someone is home. (as opposed to now, only when someone is in the room) – James Jenkins Dec 7 '18 at 18:53
  • @JamesJenkins Dogs are smart, but the dog won't understand how his owner knows he's misbehaving when they aren't there (which is the purpose of the camera set up). – elbrant Dec 7 '18 at 18:56
  • I like this solution just don't have the cameras on hand – SCFi Dec 7 '18 at 19:28
  • Perhaps a friend could come help you set up some sort of "phone surveillance". :) – elbrant Dec 7 '18 at 19:36

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