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Yesterday I bought a filter (top filter): a Sea Star HX-1480G, with F.Max at 2800L/H (which means that it has a flow rate of 2800 liters of water per hour).

I installed

  • 1 layer of a polyfiber pad at the bottom,
  • a mix of a nitrate remover pad and a phosphate remover pad in the next layer, then on top
  • filter peat/turf (any thing you call it, I got the word from text on the box, it says it decreases pH and KH) which the owner called substrate, or something like that.

In the morning I was reading the turf box, and it said "place after the mechanical-biological filtration, or hang directly in the aquarium netbag.", so I'm worried whether I might have misused it.

I also didn't get the bacteria media.

Questions:

Should I replace all these filtration layers monthly, or just the pad? I am facing higher costs due to exchange rates when importing these supplies.

(The filter has a large net so that I can't put some of my media without a pad over it, otherwise they bypass the net, and go inside the aquarium.)

Also the filter is rather full, what should I do if I want to add bacteria media?


Edit (2017/20/04)


Previously I used to put flat stuff below, also the polyfiber, then the anti-phosphate and another things above it, and then all other things as it is.

Due to your answer, I reordered my filter today: enter image description here

The bag contains pH-KH turfs, and other things beside it as you see, you know them better, I don't know well. enter image description here

Then the anti-phosphate and anti-nitrate: enter image description here

Then the polyfiber, as there were old and for the flat surface above, they didn't fit the whole area, but I think it's OK for now... And then put them together: enter image description here

Is it right?

  • "Yesterday I bought a filter (top filter). Due to my shortage I removed one item from the list and replaced it with a similar one." -> Which one is this misterious "item"? – Karl Richter Jan 8 '17 at 13:18
  • @KarlRichter i didn'r bought ceramic aquarium media on that day – deadManN Jan 10 '17 at 7:34
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    I think this order is right. but if there's nothing above the pipe, then when you are overflowing - the part that overflows doesn't get filtered. If one day you come across another polyfiber to put over the pipe, I think it would help a bit. Also, if this is the only filter running in the aquarium I'd consider cleaning only 2 out of the 4 cubic sponges every 2-3 weeks, because if you consider their volume they clearly take part of the bio cycle that you don't want to disturb. – Guy May 2 '17 at 4:33
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I assume you refer to fresh water. Nobody bothers with pH, KH and phosphate in fresh water. What matters (as far as the filter is concerned) is

  1. Physical cleaning (remove debris and particles) and
  2. The bio-cycle of ammonia transformation to nitrite, and then nitrite transformation to nitrate. This is taken care of by the bio-media (by microbes that settle on the media, and everywhere else they can).
  3. The NITRATE is removed by dilution - i.e. weekly water changes. What you need to care about is the direction of flow of water between the stages. Once you identify the direction, you want water to hit the physical filtration first (the foams), and follow to the Bio-Media filtration.

Go and buy BIO MEDIA - it's the most important element. In most setups the dirt will always settle down, even if your filter is clogged, or small. But the bio filtration determines the real power of your filter to manage a large population of fish.

Regarding your last question, I never changed any elements (so far) - I just wash them (in aquarium water - since tap water could kill the germs) once every 2 months or so - when the water flow seems to be getting low. And even then remember it's not how much water you can pump through. It's how much ammonia and nitrite you can convert to nitrate.

Regarding your overflow after 2 weeks: In this kind of (TOP) filter system an eventual overflow is normal, because it's open, and it lets water move "down only" by gravitation when the filter is relatively clean, and "2 ways" - both up and down, when it's a bit more clogged. HOWEVER, as far as I see it, overflow is still a good working state, because, on one hand gravitation keeps the water going down to the bottom (even though less water/hour), and the rest of the water, taking the "easier path" upwards, also passes some filtration layer (less filtration), and the overall resistance to the power head (pump), is limited in this way. The overflowing water are also oxygenated (good), so there's nothing really bad about it, unless you take it to the extreme. What I mean, is that you don't have to clean your sponges each time you see the overflow, but on the other hand don't wait 3 months to the point that almost no water comes out of the bottom exit... I think the bio-filtration depends more on the volume of bio substance, and less on how much water goes through it: think of it like this - it can do a little bio-cycle over a lot of water, or a lot of bio-cycle on a small amount of water - but as long as you have water going (feeding it with germs) it can do the work and convert the same amount of molecules per hour that's needed. But again don't take it to the extreme with the schedule. And don't clean the filter too thoroughly either, if it's your only filter.

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  • i got the bio media if you mean those ceramic that are required for bacteria, but my filter always overflow after 2~3 week max... remind me to share a image, maybe i did something wrong – deadManN Apr 3 '17 at 5:13
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    I think this is the right way. Since my answer is delayed, maybe you have some feedback after 3 months of operation. I did think of a problem with my proposed setup: Tunneling. Since the sponge is above, it's possible that the water flow on the bio media would be uneven. To protect from this, theses filters usually have a minimum water level, designed into them. Take a look and see that most of your media is covered in water. Do you know your nitrite level is ok? – Guy Jul 25 '17 at 6:15
  • The floor is a passage, which i put some media filter on it, since the weight of higher stuff made the net go down and blocked the passage, over the net, is my stuff, and above that ... well you know the order, at the end of filter there's a place that if water level went high, it can remove from there, and at the end of below passage, is a place to remove water, so i'm not sure if it keep the water level high, it's just the water passing by that keeps media wet. so is it has effect? or i need to switch to those expensive (toward our earning) external filter which keep water in all time – deadManN Jul 27 '17 at 7:31
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    If your fish are well, then probably you don't need to do anything. If you could measure your Nitrit (NO2) it would be best, because it doesn't just depend on your filter - it depends on your fish load. If you buy an external filter, you can continue using both... – Guy Jul 29 '17 at 12:37

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