Timeline for Will treats make this behavior worse or work as a training aid?
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| Apr 24, 2014 at 23:04 | comment | added | Zaralynda | @CedricH. and AJ, this discussion has gotten way off topic. If you want to discuss broad themes in negative vs positive reinforcement, both of these questions could use some more answers (one for cats and one for dogs) pets.stackexchange.com/questions/67/… pets.stackexchange.com/questions/396/… | |
| Apr 24, 2014 at 20:47 | comment | added | Cedric H. | I let you with your personnal results. However I really dont feel confortable with your first sentence: as a generalization it really opens to door to punishment and negative methods which then justify punishing dogs or cats in many situations (barking, jumping, pulling on leash, inapropriate behavior at the vet, etc) all of that is routinely trained with positive methods only | |
| Apr 24, 2014 at 15:37 | comment | added | AJMansfield | @CedricH. Actually, killing an animal is an extremely effective method of preventing it from doing something you don't wish it to. That is what pesticide does. That is why we kill rabid animals. That is why police shoot criminals. Clearly, those methods are actually extremely effective. The only problem with killing the cat in this case is that it conflicts with other goals, which include things like ethical treatment, continuing to have a pet, and avoiding potential legal penalties. My methods were extremely effective at accomplishing my goals. Your goals may be different, so YMMV. | |
| Apr 24, 2014 at 14:59 | comment | added | Cedric H. | @AJMansfield killing them would have achieved the same goal, that doesn't mean it's an effective method. | |
| Apr 24, 2014 at 1:33 | history | edited | AJMansfield | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 24, 2014 at 0:55 | comment | added | AJMansfield | @Zaralynda My experiences with my cats indicates otherwise. I used this to train my two cats to stay off the kitchen counters, and it worked extremely well, as 3 years later they still don't ever jump on the counters. So of course I must empirically disagree with the idea that punishment is never effective with cats. | |
| Apr 24, 2014 at 0:53 | history | edited | AJMansfield | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
added details regarding negative reinforcement techniques, limitations to their effectiveness, and a personal anecdote
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| Apr 23, 2014 at 16:56 | comment | added | Zaralynda | much better explaination of why treats won't work, but punishment isn't effective w/cats either catbehaviorassociates.com/the-squirt-bottle-controversy | |
| Apr 23, 2014 at 16:28 | history | edited | AJMansfield | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
added additional details, and another alternative
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| Apr 20, 2014 at 3:08 | history | answered | AJMansfield | CC BY-SA 3.0 |